Man Shot & Killed Near 25th & Columbia - Updated

By scott
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(updated at 9:03am, also see the great update from gatortv) I just got the details on this from Renee Witt at SPD.   Late Monday night at around 11:30pm, 911 received several reports from residents who heard 2-3 shots fired in the area southwest of 25th & E. Columbia.   Officers arrived and located a victim lying on the sidewalk near the alley on Columbia between 25th & 26th, bleeding from a single gunshot wound to the chest.  

A large number of medics were dispatched to the scene at 11:40pm and performed life-saving measures for about 25 minutes.  The victim was then transported to Harborview where he expired and was pronounced dead at 12:49am.

Police have not found any solid evidence at the scene such as shell casings or a weapon.  But, the police spokeswoman says it's too early to determine if he was actually shot in the 2500 block of E. Columbia or if he was shot somewhere else and collapsed there.   We spoke to a man near the scene last night at 24th & Columbia who heard the shots and said they came from the north, towards Marion.  He speculated that the victim then traveled under his own power the spot where he was found on Columbia.

K-9 units were brought in to try and track down the shooter.  We heard them following several tracks to the north, eventually settling on a house in the 900 block of 27th, near E Spring St.   Several people were removed from the house but a search came up negative.

Police say they have no active suspects or persons of interest so far, but the investigation is active and continuing.

Here's what we wrote up real-time:

Pretty sketchy info at this point, but here's what we know:

  • Police got a 911 report of 2 shots fired somewhere SW of 25th & E. Columbia
  • A large number of medics are treating a victim with gunshot wounds in the alleyway on Columbia between 25th & 26th.  A large response usually indicated life-threatening injuries
  • A man working in his yard at 24th & Columbia reported hearing two shots from the north, near Marion (NW of E. Columbia)
  • Radio reports 2-3 "shadowy figures" were seen heading west on Columbia
  • K-9 units are conducting a search in the area, following a possible track to the north towards 25th & Spring eastbound on Marion towards MLK

Update: 12:23am -  K-9 has followed a track to a house in the 900 block of 27th Ave.  They're going to do a "knock and talk" there

Update x2: 12:50am - Police are searching a house on 27th Ave

Update x3: 1:04am - The house checks clear

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posted on Tue, Jul 22, 2008 12:06 AM
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At midnight? byAndrew Taylor1 month ago (0 votes) (report abuse) (reply)
A man working in his yard at 24th & Columbia reported
RE: At midnight? byscott1 month ago (0 votes) (report abuse)
Yep
UPDATE: MAN HAS DIED; NOW MURDER INVESTIGATION bygatortv1 month ago (2 votes) (report abuse) (reply)
I've been able to get a few more new details on this shooting since midnight. The 56-year old victim was rushed to Harborview after the shooting, but he didn't make it. He was shot in the chest. It's unclear what he was doing when he was shot between 25th and 26th Avenues along Columbia, but a bicycle was found on the sidewalk at the scene. He might have been riding that. Police originally rushed to the neighborhood on reports of several shots being fired. When officers began canvassing the area, that's when they found the victim. A K-9 unit apparently tracked a scent to a house a couple blocks away on 27th. Those people inside were ordered outside. An 18-year old man there (with a lengthy criminal history) was taken into custody, but it's not clear if he's the suspect. No arrests have been made. There are indications that the shooter and the victim might have known each other; that's still being hashed out. As of early this morning, police say there are no witnesses to the late night assault, though quite a few neighbors called 911 with reports of hearing gunshots.
The Google map with this story bycarolyn1 month ago (0 votes) (report abuse) (reply)
Empire Way???!
RE: The Google map with this story byJudkinsPark2061 month ago (0 votes) (report abuse)
Empire Way was the former name for MLK. The name was changed in 1983. Here is a link :-) http://www.metrokc.gov/exec/mlk/memory.htm
RE: The Google map with this story bycarolyn1 month ago (0 votes) (report abuse)
Right - that's my point!

I think I vaguely recall this question coming up months ago - and Google fixed it - but it appears to now be unfixed.
is this related to the earlier incident? byJRo1 month ago (1 votes) (report abuse) (reply)
Any thoughts on whether this is related to yesterday's earlier incident on 23rd & Marion?

If so, it reminds me of a program in Chicago that focuses on violence "interruption." This was profiled sometime in the last year on This American Life. Basically whenever there's a shooting, trained "interrupters" go to the scene and try to stop people from retaliating.
And here is what we'll see today byElvis1 month ago (4 votes) (report abuse) (reply)
more complaining, more talk of containment zone, more talk, just as Seattle always does. the most passive aggressive city i've ever lived in, and i've lived in DC, Chicago, Portland.

Can't we actually decide that this is enough and start organizing more formally as a bloody neighborhood?
RE: And here is what we'll see today byFooman1 month ago (1 votes) (report abuse)
And your suggestion is? Not to be harsh, but this just sounds like meta bitching. :)


Most of us have block watches, and are fairly active. I'd love to hear your ideas on changing things more. By all means, this is the forum for it.

read my previous bloody posts byElvis1 month ago (1 votes) (report abuse) (reply)
offense taken. read the friggin' post. not the first either http://www.centraldistrictnews.com/2008/07/21/23rd-ave-gun-i#comments

i've posted several times about the need to move beyond debating the definitions of ghetto or complaining that we live in a containment zone to something more formal and organized. but all folks could do was swing their proverbial d%$*s to show each other how smart they are.

well, guess what, folks are still getting killed right next to you. but debate on, b/c it's what you're good at.

blockwatches are nice, street clean-ups are fun and cleansing, but the CD has zero political power. ZERO. we aren't organized, we don't have a voice, we don't have an advocate at City Hall; rather, we're a blip on the city's radar as they focus on bike lanes for Phinney and streetcars for Ballard.

I've laid it out pretty cleanly. Organize, either as part of the CDNA or create an improvement district with committments from everybody to participate monthly in meetings and break into subcommittees to a) raise awareness about positive and negative things happening in our community both to community members and the community at large, b) serve as a voice to city hall for improvements like traffic/infrastructure improvements, c) liaison directly with the EP and the EPCPC to deal with safety issues. I would rather have it be through the CDNA as it is more formally recognized by the city but we need the activity level of the CDNA to improve drastically.
RE: read my previous bloody posts byFooMan1 month ago (2 votes) (report abuse)
Sounds like you have a plan. That's great! I think too many of us don't have any idea what exactly to do above and beyond the usual.


Can you provide us all more specific actionable items? All your points sound wonderful and I would support them, but we obviously need someone who can give very specific things for people to take on. Most people have neither the capacity, time nor knowledge to grasp the larger picture. But they still care and and and will take on smaller tasks to make a difference. As you so point out, we need a larger driving force.


Goals such as raising awareness are great, I agree with them completely. But how exactly is that accomplished? Give me a specific task and I'll do it. I think that is fundamentally the problem is that there are plenty of people willing to make a change, but have no idea what the specifics are.


You seem to have some ideas though, I implore you to call out specific needs in this blog and I'll bet you get a positive response.


I think most specific requests for public comments etc on this blog have had fairly positive responses. Maybe you can channel the specific actions you feel are needed through it?

RE: read my previous bloody posts byElvis1 month ago (1 votes) (report abuse)
I think concrete steps right now could be a flyer campaign in your neighboor to raise awareness about the break-ins. What is our blockwatch participation level? I bet it's good, but not great. I know far too many folks in our neighborhood who don't know about any of the stuff discussed here but would be appalled to learn more. I think a communications effort to highlight positive developments in our community (i.e..the Mueller site, the 23rd and Cherry Development, etc) is critical as well.

We don't even have a web presence (although this is a good one) for the CDNA.
http://www.madrona.us/committees/council/council.htm
East Precinct Crime Prevention Coalition Meeting byktkeller1 month ago (1 votes) (report abuse) (reply)
The East Precinct Crime Prevention Coalition was started because neighbors needed to get together as a community.

When: Thursday, July 24, 2008 06:30 PM - 08:00 PM
Where: Seattle Vocational Institute, 2120 S. Jackson St
What: EPCPC
East Precinct Crime Prevention Coalition

Thursday, July 24, 2008
6:30-8:00pm
@
Seattle Vocational Institute
2120 S. Jackson St
(free parking available in parking lot)

Sita DeGiulio Das
East Program Coordinator
Seattle Neighborhood Group
206.323.9666 (Main Line)
206.322.9330 (Direct Line)
sita@sngi.org
http://www.sngi.org/

http://www.centraldistrictnews.com/events/2008/07/24/east-pr
RE: East Precinct Crime Prevention Coalition Meeting byRepresentatives?1 month ago (0 votes) (report abuse)
Does a representative from the Mayor's office and/or from our Council member's office attend? I am embarassed to admit that I do not know who our council member is (though I recently moved into the neighborhood).
RE: East Precinct Crime Prevention Coalition Meeting byktkeller1 month ago (1 votes) (report abuse)
HIgh ranking police officers attend. Could folks who participate tell us more about what happens?

We are an at-large city. So we do not have a specific council member. There have been initiatives for district based representation. The last one was for a mix of district and at large which is what a lot of cities do, but it failed abysmally. I want a representative that is accountable to ME.
RE: East Precinct Crime Prevention Coalition Meeting bycarolyn1 month ago (1 votes) (report abuse)
These meetings are excellent - both interesting and informative. They are regularly attended by Captain Paul McDonagh of the EP, the Operations Lt. (now Sean O'Donnell, formerly John Hayes), the chairperson Stephanie Tschieda (sp?), the city attorney attached to the EP (Tienney Milnor), the SNG director Sita Das, and others.

First there is a brief introduction of everyone in the room and what part of the community they live in or represent. There is usually a brief presentation from someone from a relevant city or county department (Parks, Metro, etc.) or a youth group or whatever. There are updates from the Captain and the other above-mentioned people. Then we go around the room and EACH PERSON PRESENT is specifically invited to ask a question or report a problem or otherwise express whatever relevant topic is on their mind (with time limits, of course!).

Then the Captain responds specifically to the concerns just brought up and indicates what action he plans to take.

It is a very worthwhile way to spend a couple of hours once a month!
RE: East Precinct Crime Prevention Coalition Meeting byeyes1 month ago (1 votes) (report abuse)
Yes, and they listen and promise and the same thing happens as it has for three decades, nothing really. A bit of enforcement, then more parolees are relocated her, etc, etc and we remain a containment zone. The law and a civil suit is all they understand. SUE!!!
RE: East Precinct Crime Prevention Coalition Meeting bycarolyn1 month ago (2 votes) (report abuse)
The more people who attend with the same message, the more clout we will have. Let's fill the room to overflowing this Thursday evening!
Please Form A community Council in that area byktkeller1 month ago (2 votes) (report abuse) (reply)
There IS a structure in the city. It's the Community Councils. If you look around, we have Greater Madison Valley CC, Madrona, Laschi, Coleman, Jackson Place, Squire Park, but there doesn't sem to be an active group for the areas broadly bounded from 23rd to MLK and Howell to near Yesler. Squire Park CC comes close squirepark.org. There used to be a Garfield CC and Madrona used to go up to 25th or so. If you live in any of the represented areas (you will know because you get a newsletter in the mail), start participating in your CC and create a committee to work on te issues of crime and violence. But, if you live in the areas without a CC, which is where we had shooting yesterday and a murder last night, FORM ONE.

An organized Community Council, with public meetings, a newsletter, etc. CAN be the voice of the community with the city. Witness the long, arduous work done with DPU to resolve the flooding in Mad Valley. That was driven by the affected neighbors and supporters in the community.

Community Councils are self defined by contiguous areas in the city. They also are part of the Central District Council which can have clout, if people come together, for the whole area.

I agree with Elvis on this. People have to come together. There is the infrastructure and process, it's strength is based on participation. Lack of participation and the city doesn't hear from us nor does it pay attention.

Getting KOMO News to do a story is one thing and highlights the porblems, building a community that IS working on solutions, IS heard, and gets a longer term response, creates neighborhoods that we can all enjoy.

Ted Divina at the Neighborhood Center could help. 233-7257 ted.divina@seattle.gov Say you want to start a community council in the unrepresented area and want the city's support.
RE: Please Form A community Council in that area byeyes1 month ago (1 votes) (report abuse)
If you do do press conferences and media events we must frame the issue or the media will frame is as a gentrification us vs them issue not related to crime and we will be marginalized
lets organize byPetrock1 month ago (2 votes) (report abuse) (reply)
Lets set a time and date and organize something. For years we had the CNA(Central Neighborhood Association) We did lots of things including getting the grant money for the Union Street Improvment Project. As the area became safer and calmer with fewer incidents, interest in the organization waned. No one had any interest in taking on leadership roles and those of us who had were tired of being the only ones doing it. Well things have changed alot over the past couple of years. On this site I see alot of comments coming from folks who can LEAD!Lets do it. Time, date and location and I'll be there.
RE: lets organize byElvis1 month ago (0 votes) (report abuse)
What do we know currently of the CDNA? Who is the Pres, etc?

Since there is a ton of cache in this city around the NAs, let's see if we can wake this bad boy from it's slumber and have it serve as our voice. Anybody know where the CDNA stands?

Happy to lead a meeting. I'm pretty free all next week. We need a location.
RE: lets organize bycarolyn1 month ago (0 votes) (report abuse)
Clarification, please - is the "CDNA" the same organization as the CNA? There has been some talk in the last few months of reviving the latter, with regular meetings, etc., but the effort was delayed by illnesses, out-of-town trips, etc., and I don't know where it stands now.
RE: lets organize byElvis1 month ago (0 votes) (report abuse)
Didn't know the "N" was not included in the CDA. Anyway, I am thinking this is the same thing if, and only if, it's the one that has historically worked with the City.
RE: lets organize bycolumbo1 month ago (0 votes) (report abuse)
Elvis thanks for stepping up and offering to lead!!!! In the past Central Cinema has hosted some community meetings. The church at the corner of 22nd and Union has also been used. Garfield Community Center might be another good spot to try.

If we can get a meeting on the books, I will definitely be there and will make an effort to get the word out to the rest of my neighbors.
RE: lets organize byNedd More than CD News or a Google Group1 month ago (0 votes) (report abuse)
It will important to minimally post the area where neighbors live. Better to do things by mail. It's a legitimacy and proof of due diligence issue.
RE: lets organize byjoanna1 month ago (1 votes) (report abuse)
OK, the easiest beginning would be if someone comes forward with the original organizing papers for the CNA, which suddenly quit holding general meetings. It is easier to work with and amend bylaws and even the boundaries than starting over. But, starting over would work too.
does it mater who the CDNA prez. is byeyes1 month ago